Tonight's Lineup
On CNBC’s “Kudlow & Company” tonight:
A look into the ongoing immigration flare-up with Washington Post Columnist E.J. Dionne; WSJ’s Opinion Journal.com columnist John Fund; Human Events’ Terry Jeffries and Christina Lopez from Center for Community Change.
We will have a market panel with guests John Augustine, Chief Investment Strategist at Fifth Third Asset Management; John Rutledge, Chairman of Rutledge Capital and Kimberly Greenberger, retail analyst at Citigroup.
Melissa Francis will join us with her take on oil.
We are honored to have David Beamer (father of United 93 passenger Todd Beamer) and Alice Hoglan (mother of United 93 passenger Mark Bingham) to discuss the release of the movie “United 93.” They will be accompanied by talk-show host/film-critic Michael Medved.
Steve Malanga, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute will address the status of the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site.
TONIGHT’S POLL QUESTION:
Do immigrant boycotts have the power to impact the U.S. economy?
Cast your vote at www.kudlowcnbc.com.
A look into the ongoing immigration flare-up with Washington Post Columnist E.J. Dionne; WSJ’s Opinion Journal.com columnist John Fund; Human Events’ Terry Jeffries and Christina Lopez from Center for Community Change.
We will have a market panel with guests John Augustine, Chief Investment Strategist at Fifth Third Asset Management; John Rutledge, Chairman of Rutledge Capital and Kimberly Greenberger, retail analyst at Citigroup.
Melissa Francis will join us with her take on oil.
We are honored to have David Beamer (father of United 93 passenger Todd Beamer) and Alice Hoglan (mother of United 93 passenger Mark Bingham) to discuss the release of the movie “United 93.” They will be accompanied by talk-show host/film-critic Michael Medved.
Steve Malanga, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute will address the status of the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site.
TONIGHT’S POLL QUESTION:
Do immigrant boycotts have the power to impact the U.S. economy?
Cast your vote at www.kudlowcnbc.com.
posted by Money Politic$ at 3:29 PM
81 Comments:
Immigrants and their families at home are turning in terrorists and making the border safe - Is this not a very logical and believeable action on their part? Check out the stories via Google - enter the words terrorist mexico apprehension - There's an account there of a terrorist trying to recruit persons familiar with US truck routes with unhappy results - for him - So keep up the pressure - kill the golden goose - piss off the immigrants, their families at home, and everyone else down there who have created a border watch consisting of millions of Mexican eyes - some of which are very mean indeed - no amount of US Dollars can replicate this in-place border guard
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From MSNBC:
Intelligence sources say Valerie Wilson was part of an operation three years ago tracking the proliferation of nuclear weapons material intro Iran. And the sources allege that when Mrs. Wilson's cover was blown, the administration's ability to track Iran's nuclear ambitions was damaged as well.
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Why does George Bush want to help Iran?
And Steve Colbert deserves combat pay for his weekend performance.
Hope Bush was wearing his asbestos underwear for the event.
Oops, Bernanke said "he really didn't mean it."
So much for that more "clear" communication, huh?
Looks like Bernanke is a passive-aggressive type. What the f%#@?! He is nuts; he'd better cut the crap out. Who would leak this kind things to reporter(s)?! What happened to sending messages through the proper channels, i.e., issue a press release, give a speech, write an opinion/article, etc.? Bernanke is an idiot!
Maria Bartiromo should be investigated. Why she didn't report this before the market opened?!! The timing is very suspicious. A nasty piece of work!
Why she didn't report this before the market opened?!!
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It is her prerogative to report it whenever she wants. In fact, she could have decided not to report it at all.
The only thing she cannot do is trade stocks/bonds or anything else off of that information.
I know you guys like "leaks" but looks like money honey is no Republican.
Don Boudreaux has an interesting two articles at Cafe Hayek about how Paul Samuelson (and others) kept overestimating the GDP, and growth, of the USSR. It seems that when prices are fixed, as in a Socialist system, by non-market forces all statistics become meaningless.
First, read the two articles; then think about "China."
Bernard Lewis came to the New World in the nick of time. Fate--or, more appropriately, history--decreed his American journey and the direction it would take. The historian, who will turn 90 in a handful of days, had come to Princeton from London, at the age of 58, in 1974, to do the work of Orientalism which had gained him scholarly renown.
The article by Fouad Ajami is well worth reading at Opinion.com. This immigrant has made great contributions to our country as well as warning us early when OBL declared war against America.
BTW, as Bastiat, Hayek, or Mises would be happy to explain, if they were around, today; that, also, applies to interest rates.
That's why the FOMC is an "Abomination." When interest rates are set by non-market forces we are not given the "Price" signals necessary for intelligent decisions.
The FOMC is the last vestige of a failed socialist pipe-dream of managed economies and utopian communism.
Tax, I agree. His job isn't to speak and respeak. If it had been news about Morgan Stanley or something important Maria would have been there at 7a.m. to make sure no one beat her to the camera.
That is interesting, Rufus. I have to think if academia were not so biased, Samuelson would have more distrust for the figures than and now.
I have thought about China. With price controls, secrecy, central control how would any figures be believed? They are quoted with confidence.
Bartiromo and Bernanke are both stupid. What if someone overheard their conversation, and called his broker sunday afternoon? And then, after hearing the story the broker called his partner? etc. etc.
Bernanke should have woke up Sunday morning, realized he'd been stupid, and called Maria and told her, "Either release it before 8:30, or I'll call someone who will."
Sharp, You were right. It is Petrobras that's taking a hit in Bolivia. Morales is more stupid than I thought.
TigerHawk describes a speech Justice Breyer gave at Princeton.
Breyer is "Scary."
Rufus, Publius Pundit lists BP, Exxon, Total also, and they point out he did it on May 1, communism day. I had not seen Exxon on other sites.
Jack Kelly has a good article about a new book covering the heroes of the WOT.
Of the 19 heroes described in the book, three others besides Sgt. Peralta -- Army Sergeant First Class Javier Camacho; Marine Sgt. Marco Martinez, and Luis Fonseca, the Navy corpsman -- are Hispanics. This is a fact that I think has some relevance in the current immigration debate.
Real Clear Politics
Does Powell still think he was right, or what is the purpose?
Citizens of Mexico are boycotting American owned firms, even though 25% of wage-paying jobs in Mexico are "American" Companies.
One of the Companies they are boycotting in their "buy nothing gringo" day is SEARS.
All of the SEARS stores in Mexico are owned by "Mexican" Billionaire, Carlos Slim.
Oh, and all those Mexican Diners (Vips) that they're not boycotting? They're owned by WalMart.
Ain't globalization wonderful?
Powell is bored. Bush is an easy target, right now. Powell wishes he had the courage to run for President. But he doesn't. He sneaks off to a foreign country and acts like a "big-shot."
What a "Phony Baloney."
Sharp, those are "Good" people, and they work like hell. They have, and are, contributing way more to this society than they'll ever take out of it.
I think Bush will hold the line even if it costs him a "Republican" majority in the Congress.
Bush is pretty much a "visionary" in every thing he does. He does tend to look at things with a "generational" perspective.
Rufus, I'll borrow from that comment thread I cited in the previous post, where celebrim summarizes Powell's objections better than I could have:
"I’ve never ever seen the implication of the "Powell doctrine" be that we would have sufficient force to impose law and order. In fact, a more full statement of the Powell doctrine than the breezy one you quote would indicate that the Powell doctrine would be to avoid occupations entirely. Frankly, I’m somewhat mystified how any military observer would at this time be a fan of the Powell doctrine. The Powell doctrine was a disaster virtually every where it was applied – beginning with Powell’s command in Beirut and continuing right on to Gulf War I and Somalia.
The Powell doctrine was less of a military doctrine than it was a political approach to the challenges created by the damage done to the American spirit by the Vietnam War...
Essentially the Powell doctrine is only enter into wars which will be short, decisive, and popular. Superficially, there is nothing wrong with that, and there is nothing at all wrong with the above check list. But in practice, the Powell doctrine – whether Powell was in command or someone else was trying to implement it – could be shortened down to the statement, "Whenever you meet resistance, cut your losses and run." This resulted in a series of seemingly minor failures over the course of two decades which were little noticed in America, but served to give notice to our enemies that America was a paper tiger that lacked the will for a long or difficult fight. It’s that apparent weakness which in the words of our present enemies led to their decision to attack the United States."
Breyer is illogical. I am surprised that he made it all the way to the supreme court, and even taught law at Harvard. Strange.
I still think he could win the "political" fight if he would go on tv with a map of the border, and say, "We're going to build fences, here; and we're going to put another 3,000 agents, here; and we're going to put up this many UAV's over here, etc."
Then, in the same speech he could explain how he was going to go about making sure we have enough workers to pick the crops and build the houses, and do the other things we have to have done.
Once he's done this he could explain how we're going to help those already here get in line for green cards, and citizenship.
The American people are a "Fair" people, but they don't want to be insulted, or taken advantage of. They "really" want this deal to get worked out. But, they really want some grown-up "Leadership."
With price controls, secrecy, central control how would any figures be believed? They are quoted with confidence.
The massive foreign exchange reserve is real, sharp. Can't deny the fact that China is the factory bed for the rest of the world. China could pass us and become the largest economy in the world in 6 years. It seems that communism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. But it doesn't feel right, you know?
UB, that was "exactly" the quote I was thinking of. I agree with it 100%.
That entire thread was some "incredible" writing. Even some of the opinions that I didn't agree with were well put.
I don't know, Tax; A little cash in the bank ain't necessarily a "bad" thing, but the company with the most cash isn't necessarily the one you want to invest in.
Sometimes, a lot of cash in the bank just signals a lack of investment opportunities.
Those Socialist/Communist countries can look awfully good - Right up until they go tits-up. Then you wonder, "What was I thinking? They were Communists."
I don't like the way they are protesting. I think the Dems have hijacked the immigration issue and sensationalized it in the immigrants community. Why do they have to demonstrate on work days? and on May day, the day for communists? Are they trying to tell us that they stopped working because they want more work to help this country? who's stupid idea was it? The immigrants are clearly listening to the wrong people with wrong ideas.
the company with the most cash isn't necessarily the one you want to invest in
That's a good point rufus. I have been thinking that perhaps China is not practicing capitalism. The way they are going about it, maybe it's another version of mercantilism. Still, it's hard to deny that soon we will no longer be the leader of the world, economic wise.
Tax, I'll betcha in twenty years the Samuelsons of the world will be talking about how in another twenty/thirty years China will be the "biggest" economy on earth; except maybe for India.
Remember, we were hearing the same exact thing about the Japanese in 1985. And, we heard it about the Russians right up to 1990.
They are a "Brutal" regime; basically using "slave" labor to produce low value-added products. They WILL hit a wall, at some point. It won't be pretty.
Sharp; the NY Times put the story of Paul Smith, A MEDAL OF HONOR WINNER, on page a-13.
'Nuff said.
The Iraqi troops, supported by U.S. Troops, ACTED ON TIPS FROM THE CIVILIANS AND KILLED " 100 " Insurgents, yesterday.
Never heard a thing about it on tv, today.
pitiful
That ONE HUNDRED BAD GUYS KILLED was in Ramadi. There were others in other parts of the country.
The Iraqi Army is starting to "Kick Ass." They've got the Marines in Anbar Province grinning from ear to ear. All I hear about is some writer, republican talking-head, or ex General whining about something that happened two years, ago; or something that wasn't quite perfect. Sheesh
rufus, japan has population problems and no immigration. If the anti-immigration crowd wants to know what's in store for us, all they have to do is take a look at the Japanese economy over the last 20 years. How can they be anti-immigration? No body wants to be poor.
Tax, a lot of our "Republican/conservative" cohorts are just plain xenophobes (read: Racists.)
The Dems have this deal right where they want it. If the Repubs screw up the Dems win for the next 50 years.
The average American just wants them to work it out, and quit arguing and yelling.
The "Economists" all have it right, for a change; but, who listens to economists?
G'nite all. I expect you to have it all solved by morning. E-Mail "W" when you get it all worked out. He'll appreciate it.
rufus said...
Bush is pretty much a "visionary" in every thing he does. He does tend to look at things with a "generational" perspective.
Ruf, are you hyperbolating or ironicalizing?
Actually, I agree if you go with the following dictionary meaning:
vi·sion·ar·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vzh-nr)
adj.
Having the nature of fantasies or dreams; illusory.
Existing in imagination only; imaginary.
Characterized by or given to apparitions, prophecies, or revelations.
Given to daydreams or reverie; dreamy.
Not practicable or realizable; utopian: visionary schemes for getting rich.
Tending to envision things in perfect but unrealistic form; idealistic.
n. pl. vi·sion·ar·ies
One who is given to impractical or speculative ideas; a dreamer.
That was funny, Quirk. I am sure rufus meant to say was that Bush is an "opportunity seeker".
Just a few points since I went to bed for a change. I think when they have signs saying racism, they alienate people. Not everyone who wants orderly, legal immigration is a racist or xenophobe. Then, the crops might not be picked for a while, but the needed houses would be built because Americans like those jobs, and the number of houses would be fewer because of need and the price of labor. There would be no bubble. I need say nothing of demonstrating on the wrong side of the border.
When they covered the groups supporting the strike, they did not mention Soros and his group. I watched Howard Dean look at the camera on CNN and lie by saying Bush has been against making them legal all along, and when challenged, he said Bush finally came over.
Carlos Slim is the one who owns the phone company too. That's part of the problem. America's drug war being fought south of us is a huge problem for all countries there. Friedman is right and O'Grady is right. It should stop.
Tax, on China it will slow when they pay for labor which it will. There is little known of the banking system and many other factors. We can see the goods and the cash and the building and nothing more.
http://www.willisms.com/
I don't know who does this blog, but it's full on interesting stats.
Q, I ran across the Power Energy Service Fund PXJ you might want to see. The top three holding are ng.
"If -- and I emphasize if -- my most likely forecast of sustainable output growth and modest inflation is right, then I am of the view that we are very close to having Fed policy properly calibrated for now," he said. - Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta President Jack Guynn
In other words, if the Fed gets the central planning part right, then the current policy is the right policy. I can't believe the Fed actually believes in this crap. Might as well tell us what the right prices for oil and stocks should be. Hayek must be rolling in his grave!
Bush is pretty much a "visionary" in every thing he does. He does tend to look at things with a "generational" perspective.
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this follows Rufus earlier post
"Rasmussen is known far and wide as the most accurate pollster"
"I like Harriet Miers because Bush likes her and she goes to church"
I think Rufus is losing his mind.
I'm pretty sure that Rufus has "ALREADY" lost his mind.
sorry to hear it -- wish you the best
"However," on the other hand; any President who invests as much "capital" as he did last year on long-term SS reform, and takes the unpopular (but truthful) position that there is a generational time-bomb coming in SS and Medicare (and actually tries to do somethng about it) has to be given some "Vision-thing" Credit.
Add in trying to set up a Constitutional Democracy, and taking the inevitable heat that will be heaped upon anyone who commits to the slow, frustrating work involved, and you've got to admit the man is looking several generations down the road.
Then there's the support (opposed by much of his base) of alternative fuels such as ethanol and bio-diesel to tackle the long term problem of peak and declining oil reserves.
This is reinforced by his jawboning (more money "Would" be nice) in favor of Solar, and plug-in hybrids and wind power, and you've got to admit that he's not living entirely in the "Present"
I would, also, point out that these "Free Trade" Agreements that he's been pushing won't really start producing big advantages during his Presidency.
Did I mention, "No Child Left Behind?" The children that they started testing 4 years ago won't be graduating until a couple of years after he's gone from office.
I meant to say, "Constitutional Democracy in the Middle East."
Speak of NCLB, the education secretary is not enforcing the standards. I think that could be a change to make in the cabinet. She's letting districts with minority populations off the hook.
I think a more visionary and articulate energy secretary would be an asset during this period. I couldn't believe Cramer blamed the energy department for the transition problems with MTBE and ethanol since congress insisted on doing it in the spring, and it was up to the private sector to do it. Cramer thinks DOJ should investigate the DOE's performance. But-his performance on MTP was dismal, and I wonder why he is there every time I hear him.
In addition to ng companies in Boliva, there are silver companies to avoid: SIL, CDE, PAAS.
It's a sad fact that in the age of television all major cabinet positions should be held by "photogenic" people.
Brazil is pissed, but there doesn't seem to be much they can do about it. Spain took a big hit in that deal, also.
Uruguay just told Chavez and Morales to take a hike. They pulled out of that trade pact. Mercusor (or something like that.)
Actually, Sharp, the law that removed the oxygenate requirement was passed last summer. It didn't outlaw MTBE. It only said that it's use (or any oxygenate's) wasn't required.
The oil companies made the decision on their own that they would quit using MTBE's, and that they would do it now.
Good for them. They can be friends with Columbia.
It isn't photogenic, he said or says the wrong things and appears to not know. I suppose he does. He has the background; I think. Raymond's not photogenic, but he was effective.
I'll have to read the law. Some switch was set for spring.
It did not matter what it said about MTBE once there was no protection from litigation. The lawyers are almost through with the phony asbestos, and that one brave judge ruined the silicosis scam. The lawyers are looking for something new beside lead paint, and no one is going to stand in front of them.
interesting yet limited thought process Rufus. Any similar color on Harriet Miers and Rasmussen ?
so failing to get anything done on Social Security Reform --
having to deal w " the inevitable heat " from 2400 families who have lost love ones in Iraq
pushing alternative energy in a bill full of tax breaks and subsidies for the already BOOMING oil and Gas industry
Pushing through CAFTA while earlier imposing steel tariffs n an effort to garner short term political gains in states like PA and Ohioand passing a bill nicknamed "No Lobbyist Left Behind" and as Sharp points out is not being enforced...
makes President Bush a visionary??
Wow you might be the textbook definition of a Bush apologist. You have lost your mind
Cant wait to read Harriet and your Rasmussen discussion.
We already had the Rasmussen discussion and the Harriet Miers discussions. Grow up, move on.
no we didnt genius so why dont you beat it . Get a life UNB
in the words of one respected poster here...
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Good job, UNB. Let's all keep the ridiculous generalizations coming."
We already had the Rasmussen discussion and the Harriet Miers discussions. Grow up, move on.
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UN -- if you dont like the discussion ..dont post ---ignore it and move on. This is a blog site people can discuss and re-discuss and discuss again whatever they like. Rufus discusses ethanol at any opportunity noone who seems to have a problem with him .
You UnBelieve, are the one who needs to grow up . You seesm resigned to attack other posters constantly. You might be better off somewhere else -----look on the right hand side of the blog /maybe its time for you to find a new home.
rufus said...
rufus said...
"However," on the other hand; any President who invests as much "capital" as he did last year on long-term SS reform, ... [and a lot of other stuff]
Rufus, I will never share the view of GWB that you and Sharp have. I’ll admit at this point I have fallen into that not very pretty mode of enjoying it when new polls come out showing Bush’s popularity dropping. Not smart in one sense because he will be our president for the better part of three more years, and his lack of domestic support hurts any foreign policy initiatives this country needs to take. On the other hand, I am glad that his low poll ratings have slowed down what I consider his disastrous domestic policies.
We have gone over this territory a number of times before so I won’t reiterate the specific numbers in my usual diatribe against GWB. But I do get a certain catharsis in responding to your paeans to GWB insight and “vision”. Maybe it’s because he is such an easy target.
You are impressed by GWB’s “vision thing” and view it as a positive. You seem to view him as a man ahead of his time who sees things as they ought to be and tries to change them. I see George Bush’s “vision” in terms captured in the dictionary definition I posted above.
You see GWB as a relentless crusader because he took on SS reform. I see someone at the top of his popularity pandering to his base with a proposal that had no substance behind it, a man who throws out a concept with no data to support it, who offers an idea that will significantly aggravate the problem in the short run while providing no proof that it will help in the long run.
You believe GWB thinks in “generational” terms. I don’t think he has any concept of the long term effects of his actions. He runs on gut instinct and emotions not intellectual curiosity. The SS trust fund runs out in 2017, the Medicare “trust fund” ran out in 2004. If GW was thinking in “generational” terms, why didn’t he try to address Medicare which is many times the problem SS will ever be. Instead he added to the problem. If he had foregone the drug benefit alone, the money saved if applied to SS would have guaranteed the SS systems solvency for 75 years.
You see GW as a dedicated crusader fighting against overwhelming odds for truth, justice, and the American way. I view GW as a politician, up until recently a very successful one. That is, he was successful in the two things important to politicians, getting elected and passing legislation that assures enough monetary support will keep coming in to assure you and your party will continue to get elected.
You see him as a man who has pushed policies that have been good for business and will help everyone under the principle that “a rising tide raises all boats.” I see a man who had the drug and health care industry write the Medicare Bill, who had the credit card companies write the revisions to the bankruptcy laws, who had big oil write the energy bill, who’s tax policies favor the already affluent, and who’s only concern about the little guy is in some abstract “vision” that is divorced from anything he is actually familiar with.
You talk about his support of alternative fuels and that he doesn’t appear to be living entirely in the “present”. You have me there. I’ll admit he doesn’t appear to be living in the present, or for that matter, in any objective reality I can conceive of. However, I have to ask, if he has the vision thing, why wasn’t he channeling five years ago, identifying the current shortages and pushing the alternative energy card then?
You talk of GW and his “vision” of setting up a constitutional democracy in Iraq. I supported Bush initially on Iraq. It was a gut instinct thing. It seemed like the right thing to do given 9/ll, and it was also probably a common reaction against “old Europe” and the others fighting us in the UN. Emotional, “Us vs. Them. Bush’s presidency will probably be judged on how Iraq turns out. As I stated to Sharp, there is no point in arguing the pros and cons of the Iraq policy. It is what it is. Events have evolved there to the point that they will turn out there the way they are destined to, and in a practical and political sense there is little we can do to change that.
However, that being said, your characterization of the Bush Doctrine as something new is a bit much. The doctrine itself harkens back to Wilsonian idealism. It is a nice “vision”. Whether it plays out in reality remains to be seen, and based on fairly recent history, it is a problematic concept. I’m not saying he’s wrong but it’s definitely not a sure thing.
With regard to “No Child Left Behind”, it amazes me that a free-market capitalist like yourself can believe that doubling the size of a highly dysfunctional, inefficient, politicized bureaucracy like the Dept. of Education can possibly result in anything positive. It’s obvious you have bought into at least some of the “big-government Republicanism” arguments. This program is anathema to true conservatives, those who were proposing not to long ago that federal bureaucracies like DOE and DOC be closed down, those who see it as a growth in the federal government power to the detriment of federalism, those who support local control of schools, those who are against unfunded mandates.
You are right in indicating we will see results from the program some years down the road. Again we will have to wait and see. However, I will only point out that every thing isn’t black and white. It is very possible that we will improve math and science skills to levels similar to the “best and brightest” in Asia. They too depend on extensive testing throughout their education systems. However, many of these countries also admit that the emphasis on test scores may be a determining factor (or at least one of them) in why they lag the US in innovation and creative thinking.
You mention the “free-trade” agreements and view them as positive. There are a lot of people who are being hurt by free-trade agreements that wouldn’t agree with you. In a number of developing countries the agreements are being used as one rationale for the current movement to the left. Regardless, it seems obvious that globalization will continue.
In summary, you view the “decider” as decisive, a man of vision, a man who sticks to his guns. I view the same man as a politician, a panderer, and a visionary, with no clue as to how his “vision” will affect the future, disassociated from the views of typical Americans, and too arrogant and self-satisfied to find the flexibility to change.
It is unlikely you or I will change our views during the last few years of his presidency.
Also, once again thanks for providing the opportunity for me to vent
What are friends for?
quirk --
your clear independent thought and evaluation has no shot here on this site. Bush can "do no wrong" in a lot of these posters minds and Kudlow's. Its easier to blame the media, the Democrats, the left, the RINOs, the immigrants, Mexico, France, Canada, local new Orleans government, the Cabinet, John Snow, CNN, CBS polling, and the New York Times. they all conspire against Bush and make "Him " look bad. Did i miss anybody?
Yes sharp, You are right. It was the congressional mandate to use MTBE instead of Tetra ethyl lead in 1990. Now it has been found that MTBE is creeping into ground water and causing contamination. And finally everyone held the oil manufacturers responsible for the use of MTBE and filed an MTBE LITIGATION against the manufacturers. Their claim was that the company did not warn the people of the harmful effects of MTBE. What do you feel, was it the oil company or the government who has to warn the people? Was it the oil company or the government who had to safeguard the people?
Decide yourself.
And coming to rufus's comment - You are right. The law now says that the use of an oxygenate was not required. The oil companies removed the MTBE usage coz they didn’t want to be caught up in a MTBE LITIGATION again.
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