Communist Reincarnation in Latin America
With much of the national attention and debate fixated on Iran and Iraq, a number of folks are missing the growing communist threat rifling through Latin America.
Ronald Reagan fixed this in the 1980’s with a strong, principled stand for democracy and backing the freedom fighters in El Salvador and Nicaragua. CIA Director Bill Casey undertook covert actions even in the face of left-wing Democratic congressional outrage and the stupid debate over the War Powers Act.
It worked in Central and South America, as the dominoes of democracy started falling everywhere.
Now, twenty years later, leftist governments are rearing their ugly heads in Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina, and perhaps Mexico and Peru. U.S. oil companies are being nationalized. China is aligning itself with Cuba and Venezuela to explore and drill offshore oil just forty-five miles off the Florida Keys.
That begs the question, why isn’t the United States drilling there?
And, perhaps more importantly, what is our government policy regarding this burgeoning leftward tilt in Latin America—which by the way is a safe harbor for a number of terrorist groups including Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, all of which are actively plotting to destroy the United States?
This is very serious stuff. The U.S. government needs a clear and aggressive response to this leftist revolt that threatens our hemisphere.
And by the way, what actions will our government take to defend our corporations from expropriation? Since when do we allow foreign governments to take over the assets of American companies?
Ronald Reagan fixed this in the 1980’s with a strong, principled stand for democracy and backing the freedom fighters in El Salvador and Nicaragua. CIA Director Bill Casey undertook covert actions even in the face of left-wing Democratic congressional outrage and the stupid debate over the War Powers Act.
It worked in Central and South America, as the dominoes of democracy started falling everywhere.
Now, twenty years later, leftist governments are rearing their ugly heads in Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina, and perhaps Mexico and Peru. U.S. oil companies are being nationalized. China is aligning itself with Cuba and Venezuela to explore and drill offshore oil just forty-five miles off the Florida Keys.
That begs the question, why isn’t the United States drilling there?
And, perhaps more importantly, what is our government policy regarding this burgeoning leftward tilt in Latin America—which by the way is a safe harbor for a number of terrorist groups including Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, all of which are actively plotting to destroy the United States?
This is very serious stuff. The U.S. government needs a clear and aggressive response to this leftist revolt that threatens our hemisphere.
And by the way, what actions will our government take to defend our corporations from expropriation? Since when do we allow foreign governments to take over the assets of American companies?
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Relax, Larry; it's all under control. We've got a Secret Weapon, down there.
It's the "unholy alliance" of Venezuela, Cuba, and Bolivia. They are rapidly running the rest of South America straight into our arms.
They've already turned impending far Left Wing victories into severe long-shots in Peru and Mexico. Colombia just signed a Free Trade Agreement with us, and, today, Uruguay told them to "take a hike." AND, they've mightily pissed of Brazil.
I think Rufus is on target, South Americans are looking around and starting to reject Chavismo. We should let, even hasten, Chavez & Co. destroy themselves. We should keep expanding NAFTA/CAFTA arrangements with nations outside of Chavez's influence. When Castro dies, we should offer to help write a democratic constitution and fund a long term Marshall plan type project to build a democratic Cuba with the help of the Cuban exile/immigrant community. Most importantly, as LK notes, we should extract and refine our own oil and stop buying Chavez's.
Besides, it "IS" South America! They always have been a bit ,uh, "unpredictable."
That's why your oil companies create partnerships to do business down there. Spreads out the "exposure."
If a company decides to do business down there, they'll just have to assume the risk. This isn't the 50's. We can't sneak down there and start a war every time some company gets it's tail in a crack.
BUT, Donny's Right. To sit here, and watch Castro, and Chavez drill 35 miles from our coast, and tell Exxon they can't "IS JUST PLAIN NUTZ!"
The Congress could cancel the $120 million in aid given to Bolivia. It will have plenty of money from Chavez and its natural resources. I think we let Cuba confiscate assets.
We could stop the drug war that has given rise to organized crime which is fighting the governments and terrorizing the citizens. The crime organizations are like armies. There have be beheadings in Mexico. It is disturbing to read of the many ways the society of some countries have been destroyed by the effort to control drugs outside our borders.
Second that, Sharp.
Venezuela has aligned itself with Iran. I think it is buying weapons from Russia and Europe. Was it Spain that wanted to sell them planes with American parts? Chavez and Castro need an enemy as all dictators do, and American is always convenient. I do worry for the safety of our ambassador and the employees of our companies.
I saw an article about the EU protesting the confiscation of assets.
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whatever happened to this Kudlow idea from NRO ..wrote Feb 6, 2003.
"And now it is time for action. Most Americans today are waiting for President Bush to once and for all pull the plug on Saddam. The nation has placed its trust in the commander in chief. There is no doubt that we will succeed in this venture. There is no doubt that the dominos of freedom and democracy will fall throughout the Middle East after Saddam’s removal. And there is no doubt that international terrorism will be dealt another mortal blow. """
Its funny how Kudlow lays out posts like this and then comes back 3 years later w/ "The U.S. government needs a clear and aggressive response to this leftist revolt that threatens our hemisphere. "
Somehow Larry just cant admit any mistakes from this administration
Kudlow said...
It worked in Central and South America as the dominoes started falling.
Geez, Larry, are you stiuck in some kind of a time warp? The domino theory of the 50's and 60's assumed that the Chicoms would take over Southeast Asia one country at a time starting with Vietnam and completely ignored nationalism and the fact that Vietanm had been fighting (and in some cases winning) against China for over a 1000 years.
When do we send in the special forces?
Rufus is right, "This is South America". Populism and communism as political movements have waxed and waned in in those countries for the past couple of centuries. The sad fact is that every generation down there seems to have to learn the same lessons over and over. Past history shows that there is usually a shift back towards free markets when the poverty and corruption these movements were intended to combat in fact get worse.
By the way Larry. In case you haven't notice the Sandanistas have a chance to regain power in Nicaragua in future elections there.
So how do you play the investment angle? Buy Miami real estate since many wealthy Venezuelans, Bolivians, and maybe Peruvians will want second homes to escape the leftists.
The same as ever, track the trends and don't think you can call the market tops and bottoms. Was that helpful?
"Ronald Reagan fixed this in the 1980’s with a strong, principled stand for democracy and backing the freedom fighters in El Salvador and Nicaragua. CIA Director Bill Casey undertook covert actions even in the face of left-wing Democratic congressional outrage and the stupid debate over the War Powers Act."
Ronald Reagan fixed this? This is funny. This paragraph should read Reagan ran an illegal war in Central America in defiance of the law, and funded it by selling arms to the Ayatollah Khomeini. You folks on the right don't care much for our constitution do you? It just gets in the way of your right wing tyrants.
"Now, twenty years later, leftist governments are rearing their ugly heads in Venezuela, Bolivia, Argentina, and perhaps Mexico and Peru. U.S. oil companies are being nationalized. China is aligning itself with Cuba and Venezuela to explore and drill offshore oil just forty-five miles off the Florida Keys."
US oil companies are being nationalized? Wow! That is big news! So I should expect to see Exxon Moble come down off the NYSE in the next few days right? Okay, maybe not. Maybe you are just exaggerating.
"That begs the question, why isn’t the United States drilling there?"
It could be that smart people have figured out that oil is not the solution, it is the problem.
"And, perhaps more importantly, what is our government policy regarding this burgeoning leftward tilt in Latin America—which by the way is a safe harbor for a number of terrorist groups including Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, all of which are actively plotting to destroy the United States?"
That is quite a claim. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim that Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are being harbored in these countries? I would really like to see it.
"This is very serious stuff. The U.S. government needs a clear and aggressive response to this leftist revolt that threatens our hemisphere.
And by the way, what actions will our government take to defend our corporations from expropriation? Since when do we allow foreign governments to take over the assets of American companies?"
Actually the type of governments that these countries have, and what they do with the assets in our countries is their business. It isn't up to us to decide that every country in the world needs democracy and capitalism.
It is bizarre reading right wing blogs. What you guys seem to like to do is sit around a lie to each other and make up history to reassure each other, and make yourselves feel better. It is just so disconnected from reality, that it makes me question your honesty and sincerity. If you have to try to make up so much, and lie and distort so much, maybe it is time to reassess your values and beliefs. If they can't stand up to basic examination, then they don't belong in our national politics.
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=050206B
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21194
Have you never heard of the bombings in Buenos Aires??
The area around Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay may as well be called little Gaza....you play a typical political game, questioning proof, resorting to claims of hyperbole, but you accomplish nothing but reveal your own motivations. Kwak you use past history to try and prove or disprove rather, current history. I have been there I have seen what is going on, fortunately this is SA and we know how it will end.
Hey Awkster, lighten up. If you spent any time on this blog, you would know that most of the people on it at one time or another take shots at Larry's rather simplistic views on a wide range of issues. In fact a number of them do it regularly. If you spent any time on this blog you would see that many people here probably share a number of your views. Larry,is often dead wrong in his views but he is generally enthusiastic in offering them. It's part of his charm. He is a free-market capatalist and a cockeyed optimist on the economy, but at least he is is gracious to guests that disagree with him. Basically he is a somewhat benighted but genuinely nice guy.
Which brings me to you. Was that a driveby post or will you actually stick around to debate some of the issues you've raised?
For instance,
"It could be smart people have figured out oil is not the solution, it is the problem."
What the Hades (sorry, gratuitous flaunting of my knowledge of the classics) does that mean?
And then there is your little rant about about "right wing blogs." and how it makes "smart" people like you question their honesty and sincerity. In this, you exhibit the characteristic pomposity and elitism of the left that says "we understand what is good for you and it is so self-evident that if you disagree with us you must be a bad persion."
A good example is your comment, "maybe it's time to reassess your values and beliefs." What presumption. You haven't the foggiest idea what our values and beliefs are, yet you feel it your duty to question them. This is especially galling to most Americans since they haven't bought into the moral relevatism that forms the basis of much of the "value system" on the left.
Sorry too have couched this response in general terms but there weren't many specifics in you post.
"Hey Awkster, lighten up. If you spent any time on this blog, you would know that most of the people on it at one time or another take shots at Larry's rather simplistic views on a wide range of issues. In fact a number of them do it regularly. If you spent any time on this blog you would see that many people here probably share a number of your views. Larry,is often dead wrong in his views but he is generally enthusiastic in offering them. It's part of his charm. He is a free-market capatalist and a cockeyed optimist on the economy, but at least he is is gracious to guests that disagree with him. Basically he is a somewhat benighted but genuinely nice guy."
My post directed at Larry, and not the rest of you but I am happy to respond to this. The problm I have with right wing blogs like this one, is that they all repeat the same pattern. Larry claims to be an economist, but in reality what he is doing is merely propaganda.
Take a look at Larry's post about how the Bush tax cuts have been so effective. If would seem to make perfect sense what he is saying, unless ofcourse, you are a person who has actually studied economics and understands how the economy works. The post blatantly ignores the fact that government spending has exploded over the past five years, and doesn't even begin to examine how that spending might be contributing to the expansion of GDP. Nope only the Bush tax cut is responsible. Not to mention that it ignores the cost of the Bush tax cut, which has been exploding deficits.
The other little slight of hand in play in his article is the notion of indicating that the economy started picking up steam, and just about the exact instant that the Bush tax cuts were passed. Interesting. As if all of those companies creating jobs turned on a dime because of the Bush tax cut and decided to invest. Sorry Charlie, it doesn't work that way. Companies take years to make investment decisions. It doesn't happen overnight. But again Larry ignores the fact that the economic recovery was well underway before the 2003 tax cut, and attributes the economy to Bush.
This isn't about optimism, this is about the fact that information is misrepresented. So my question to you is: Is this intentional or is this incompetence?
"For instance,
"It could be smart people have figured out oil is not the solution, it is the problem."
What the Hades (sorry, gratuitous flaunting of my knowledge of the classics) does that mean?"
Well the problem is simple. We in the United States consume 25% of the world's oil, but have only 3% of the reserves. The problem isn't Mullahs, terrorists, leftist Central American or facist Middle East Dictatorships, ANWAR and Offshore Drilling restrictions, Chinese or Indian demand or number of refineries. The problems is we use way too much of a limited resource we can't produce which puts our economy and political system at the mercy of foreign countries. Solve that problem, and we can have a rational government policy relating to the Middle East.
"And then there is your little rant about about "right wing blogs." and how it makes "smart" people like you question their honesty and sincerity. In this, you exhibit the characteristic pomposity and elitism of the left that says "we understand what is good for you and it is so self-evident that if you disagree with us you must be a bad persion."
A good example is your comment, "maybe it's time to reassess your values and beliefs." What presumption. You haven't the foggiest idea what our values and beliefs are, yet you feel it your duty to question them. This is especially galling to most Americans since they haven't bought into the moral relevatism that forms the basis of much of the "value system" on the left.""
The problem is that all political talk is related to the notion that I know better than my opponent about how to run our country. It isn't a left thing. Republican feel they know better how the economy should be managed than Democrats do, and vice versa. The issue comes down to one of intellectual honesty. Again, with the example above of the Bush Tax cuts and the economy. This happens over and over on Right Wing blogs, were propaganda and bias is presented as absolute truth. However it doesn't even stand up to the simplest examination by someone who is willing to think it through.
"http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=050206B
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21194
Have you never heard of the bombings in Buenos Aires??
The area around Brazil, Argentina, and Paraguay may as well be called little Gaza....you play a typical political game, questioning proof, resorting to claims of hyperbole, but you accomplish nothing but reveal your own motivations. Kwak you use past history to try and prove or disprove rather, current history. I have been there I have seen what is going on, fortunately this is SA and we know how it will end."
You see Quirk, this is the type of post I am talking about also. I ask for some proof that Hammas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah are being harbored in South America, and in reply I get a very arrogant response and one link talking about the 3 leftists in charge, and another link relating Hamas trying to establish diplomatic relations, and a rant about bombings that happened in excess of 10 years ago. Apparently that is what is supposed to qualify as proof and put me in my place and shame me for questioning it.
And btw xplore. A statment saying these groups are harbored down in South America is not proof, is merely a contention. And the area around Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay is about 5000 times bigger than Gaza, so I don't think it qualifies as little.
Good response, kwA, well reasoned and unemotional.
Your point about right wing blogs may be well taken but it ignores the fact left wing blogs do the same thing but from the perspective of the left. I don't find it especially "bizarre". That's what blogs do.
With regard to Larry, very few on this blog accept Larry's bona fides as an economist at face value. I have made the same arguments regarding the Bush tax cuts that you seem to be making. As a matter of fact, within the last couple of weeks, there was at least one extensive blog stream here devoted to the subject.
I still think Larry is a nice guy regardless of the simplicity of some of his thinking on the economy.
I also disagree with your statement/question;
"This isn't about optimism, this is about the fact that information is misrepresented. So my question to you is: Is this intentional, or is this incompetence."
First, I think at least some of it is Larry's optimism. I accept that we may have a difference of opinion on that subject. However,with regard to your question, my answer is that it is irrelevant whether it is intentional or whether it is incompetence.
On each of his posts, Larry is positing a position or opinion. On this blog it is a conversation starter. Only someone who is unimformed, uninterested, or just plain lazy would accept Larry's position/opinion at face value without questioning the underlying assumptions. If Larry's statements are controversial, all the better since it can prompt a more intense debate.
However, in logic and debate quarreling is not the same as argument, and emotion is no substitute for reasoned arguments. In my experience, I've found that you rarely convince someone to move towards your position on a subject by calling them simpletons, dishonest, or bastards. However, I have noted that these are tactics prominent on left wing blogs. If you have found a different experience, I remain willing to be convinced if you are willing and able to make a reasonable, convincing argument.
Well Kwak those articles were starters, I didn't know I had to do all the research for you. The BA bombing yes was over 10 years ago,(a rant about facts nevertheless) so imagine the buildup over that time. The point is there's ample evidence to begin an investigation of terrorist cell presence there no matter their name. The lil Gaza remark was referring to population not geographic size. Harboring perhaps the wrong word, it implies gov't complicity, but their presence I think is hardly disputable. Furthermore I don't think those groups announce themselves so just because there's no article on it doesn't make it untrue. And yes I realize that's a weak argument but certainly no worse than a flat denial without substantiation.
First off I'd like to say that it seems counter-productive to call each other left and right. That creates tension and alienation. While of course each person will have a classic "left" or "right" view on a subject, it seems dumb to make an all encompassing statement like "im a leftist" or "these people are leftist."
Xplore74, these are credible sources. I mean one is written from an obviously conservitive Lt. General that is all about defending the American way of life. By the way I know your thinking, he just said not to label people with an all encompassing statement, but if you look in the dictionary at the definition of conservitive then you'll see it just means that someone is opposed to change and relies on tradition.
I dont see why everyone is so mad that communism is working somewhere. I dont think its quite communism either. I mean the final step of communism is to abolish the government and have a self-sastainable system in place. Your talking about some socialism. The funniest part about all these things im reading is that you people seem to be so concerned as to whats going to happen to you. If you were truely compassionate people you would be questioning how these systems and leaders are bad for its people. But instead, being the greedy capitalist you are, you question if your stocks will go down and if the most profitiable businesses (oil) in the world will lose a little money that they dont need.
My suggestion to you is to be a little more compassionate, loving and sensere about your opinions and stop being malicious, greedy and hate filled.
If what I say has some truth to it and that scares you, you can point out that I mispelled a few words and that will make me look less crediable to all your brothers out there.
Have fun in when all bad things that America has done and is doing comes back to bite it in its ass. Its people like you that support that action so I guess its ok if you die in the process. Me, personally? Im leaving this shit whole, it isn't the best turd in the porta-potty anymore. I dont support the conservitive mindstate and prefer to be progressive, America isn't on that path.
Peace be with you and I hope you see a little of the light. (Not a Christian refrence)
First off I'd like to say that it seems counter-productive to call each other left and right. That creates tension and alienation. While of course each person will have a classic "left" or "right" view on a subject, it seems dumb to make an all encompassing statement like "im a leftist" or "these people are leftist."
Xplore74, these are credible sources. I mean one is written from an obviously conservitive Lt. General that is all about defending the American way of life. By the way I know your thinking, he just said not to label people with an all encompassing statement, but if you look in the dictionary at the definition of conservitive then you'll see it just means that someone is opposed to change and relies on tradition.
I dont see why everyone is so mad that communism is working somewhere. I dont think its quite communism either. I mean the final step of communism is to abolish the government and have a self-sastainable system in place. Your talking about some socialism. The funniest part about all these things im reading is that you people seem to be so concerned as to whats going to happen to you. If you were truely compassionate people you would be questioning how these systems and leaders are bad for its people. But instead, being the greedy capitalist you are, you question if your stocks will go down and if the most profitiable businesses (oil) in the world will lose a little money that they dont need.
My suggestion to you is to be a little more compassionate, loving and sensere about your opinions and stop being malicious, greedy and hate filled.
If what I say has some truth to it and that scares you, you can point out that I mispelled a few words and that will make me look less crediable to all your brothers out there.
Have fun in when all bad things that America has done and is doing comes back to bite it in its ass. Its people like you that support that action so I guess its ok if you die in the process. Me, personally? Im leaving this shit whole, it isn't the best turd in the porta-potty anymore. I dont support the conservitive mindstate and prefer to be progressive, America isn't on that path.
Peace be with you and I hope you see a little of the light. (Not a Christian refrence)
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